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Int`l scholar discusses Islam and geopolitics

12 November 2008 23:24 (UTC+04:00)
Int`l scholar discusses Islam and geopolitics

Background
Harun Yahya is a pen name used by Mr. Adnan Oktar. The pen-name Harun Yahya is a combination of the names "Harun" (Aaron) and "Yahya" (John) in honor of the two Prophets who struggled against infidelity.
Born in Ankara in 1956, Adnan Oktar is a prominent Turkish intellectual. Devoted to moral values and dedicated to communicating to other people those values he embraces, Oktar began his intellectual struggle in 1979 during his education at Mimar Sinan University`s Academy of Fine Arts. His dedicated intellectual effort against Darwinism and materialism has grown to become a worldwide phenomenon. Quoted in the 22 April 2000 issue of New Scientist, Mr. Oktar became an "international hero" in communicating the fallacy of the theory of evolution and the fact of creationism theory.
Many works of Harun Yahya were translated into English, French, German, Italian, Russian, Spanish, Arabic, Portuguese, Albanian, Serbo-Croat (Bosnian), Polish, Urdu, Indonesian, Kazakh, Azeri, Malay and Malayalam.

AzerNEWS: Mr. Oktar, could you tell us how you came up with the idea to write an Atlas of Creation? Do you think you succeeded in convincing the followers of Darwinism to change their beliefs?
Adnan Oktar: Of course, because evidence was used throughout the book, from beginning to end. Not one or two pieces of evidence, but hundreds are used, with photographs. I have published one part of the 100 million fossils from beneath the ground. One hundred million fossils prove creation. In other words, they have never changed. For instance, they were the same 300 million years ago as they are now. But what is even more interesting is that Darwinists have not a single fossil they can call a transitional form to prove Darwinism. What kind of theory is that? It is total nonsense, a complete lie. You may say that something is a theory if there are two or three bits of evidence supporting it.
Europe is now in a state of collapse when it comes to Darwinism. We can see that from the opinion polls, from the way that scientists and politicians have changed their minds, and from the reactions of the press.
Nicolas Sarkozy was a classic, pro-materialist Frenchman before my book fell into his hands. But he did a total volte-face in terms of faith after reading my Atlas. Look at his statements. This is what Sarkozy says: `It was atheism, not religion that caused suffering. It is Almighty Allah who is in everyone`s thoughts and heart. It is Allah Who liberates a person from being a prisoner, and Who sets him free. Allah is a bastion against human beings` infinite pride and madness. It is Allah Who supersedes all differences and Who constantly gives people messages of humility and love, of peace and brotherhood, of tolerance and respect.` What else need he say? French papers were stunned by Sarkozy`s comments. Le Monde reported them by saying `No-one expected him to go this far.`
Tony Blair had socialist, Darwinist, materialist views, as you know. These are his views after obtaining and reading a copy of my book: `You cannot understand the modern world without understanding the importance of religious belief. Protect religion and help it become a force for good.` That means he has realized that religion is a force for good. In an interview, Blair said that he read the Qur`an in the evenings and that he gave copies of the Qur`an to famous artists. Bono, the soloist from the famous band U2, said that he began reading the Qur`an after Blair gave him a copy. Blair said that we need to turn to religion as a solution to the world`s problems.
I also sent a copy to Jacques Chirac, who thanked me in a hand-written letter. He said he found the book very excellent. And as you know, he is very devout. Those are just the results from France, so you can imagine the rest.
A poll by the (German) daily Die Welt says that 86% of people believe that Allah created the Earth. These are the effects in the wake of the book. Belgium`s De Morgen says that more than 6 out of 10 non-Muslim students at the University of Antwerp do not believe that human beings are descended from apes. Eight out of 10 Muslim students think that the theory of evolution is complete nonsense. Asked in a poll by Denmark`s Ekstra Bladet whether they thought that human beings are descended from apes, 88% of the Danish public answered no. There were surveys in the Swiss Factum and the famous daily Blick. The situation was the same. In a poll by the French scientific web site Actualite, the level of believers in evolution was 5%, compared to 92% for creation.
AzerNEWS: Does the spread of terrorism and religious fundamentalism over the past decade, and the inability of the Islamic world to counter these tendencies, indicate a weakness in Islamic civilization? Some interpret the spread of terrorism and religious fundamentalism as a consequence of weakness of Islam as a religion, while others - as an incorrect comprehension of God in Islam. What is your take on this?
Adnan Oktar: All those who perpetrated the September 11 attacks were people who had received a materialist and atheist education, who had been educated in Europe and who held materialist views. Their identity papers may describe them as Muslims, but that is irrelevant... The people who do these things are generally of the kind I have described, people who have had a religious education but who hold materialist views. We cannot put this down to Islam. Can someone who fears Allah, who loves Allah with all his heart, who believes in the Hereafter and who believes in Paradise and Hell possibly bomb innocent women and children? What kind of courage is that? They could not even conceive of such a thing. It would never enter their minds, let alone actually carrying it out.
The cause of terror is Darwinism and materialism. This is Marxism-Leninism. Terror is a precondition in Leninist thinking. Marxism is theoretical communism and Leninism is applied communism. It is communist thought in action. Lenin says the way to put it into practice is through terror. Terror is essential in classical Marxist and Leninist thinking.
Suicide bombers in Iraq are former members of the Baath Party and people trained by them. Iraqi and Syrian Baathists all received a Marxist-Leninist and Stalinist education. Iraqi head of state Saddam tried to model himself on Stalin and was a great fan of Stalin. And his practices were those of Stalinism: mass slaughter and killings. Baathist people were dispersed among the public and are still carrying out suicide attacks.
It is people at the very top of world power, Masons, who control the communists, Baathist, etc. It is the Masons who control terror. It was the Masons who controlled Saddam. They used him, and then cast him off like an old shoe. They first used him in massacres, but Saddam was nothing without Masonic support. The game was over once the Masons decided he should be destroyed. They immediately rounded him up and hanged him. The Masons are capable of anything. They are very secret. Like bacteria entering the human body, they gradually wear it down and kill it. Like a plague spore.
AzerNEWS: Who are Masons and what is their agenda?
Adnan Oktar: The Masons, the highest Masons, are in America and Britain. But most powerfully they originate from Britain and Ireland. They have historic, ancient temples, and there is one in Jerusalem. They call them lodges, but they are really temples... They meet in quite large numbers, two or three hundred people. They place one person on a chair, then they hypnotize him so he goes into a trance state. They have experts, cabbalists, who know how to call up Shaytan, and they put that person in contact with Shaytan. While he is in a trance, Shaytan starts speaking through his voice... `Do this, do that... this is what I will do if you don`t...` He makes threats of that kind. As a result of hypnotizing, Shaytan appears before them as a direct image. That is why the Masons fear Shaytan so much. They give Shaytan various names, I believe they call him Baphomet. They put a strange-looking entity with horns like a goat on the throne, and that is their deity, that is what they behave according to. Masons are people who directly worship Shaytan. The Masons write this in their own books, they say that Shaytan lights their way, they write that in their journals. The film about the Masons was broadcast on Channel 7. It was shot in secret.
And Europeans ask where this idea of Shaytan came from... Darwinism is an ancient Sumerian religion. It is a very ancient faith. This is how Shaytan explains the world; when we are told we were created, he says that chance created us. You, he says, were in a bit of muddy water, compounds then formed within that slime, a cell formed from them and went on to develop, but all by chance. Allah did not do it, says Shaytan.
Freemasonry is very ancient. They even say that they have been around since the time of the Prophet Adam. The Masons say that they have been in existence ever since then. There is the story of Habil and Kabil [Cain and Abel]. One brother killed the other. They claim that the one who killed his brother was a Mason. They claim to trace Masonry back to very ancient times. The Prophet Musa was a follower of Allah and was invincible. Pharaoh was also a Mason, and you will note that the reliefs on his palaces are full of Masonic symbols. And Pharaoh`s philosophy was also Masonic.
AzerNEWS: You mentioned in your previous statements about the need for unification of Azerbaijan and Turkey. Why do you think this is necessary?
Adnan Oktar: It is urgent and essential for this genuine and noble nation that believes in Allah, the Turkish nation that has always striven against Shaytan, to unite in the face of the alliance of Shaytan. Turkey is the state that can best protect Islam, best maintain the interests of Islam, and best preserve national and spiritual values. A Turkic union under Turkey`s leadership will be a glorious world power. This is Turkey`s destiny, and the Turkish-Islamic Union has already been founded in the sight of Allah.
It is so logical and easy for Azerbaijan and Turkey to unify as one. If we put our minds to it we can easily do it in one year or two. Both sides are really keen. So what are we waiting for? The first thing to do is to get rid of the passport regime, we must be free to come and go without passports.
Initially, when the Soviet Union first disintegrated, members of the Ergenekon deep state secret society went to Azerbaijan and the Turkic states and behaved very badly there, frightening them and doing things to make them uneasy. The truth of the matter is now being revealed, and there is a new, virtuous and enlightened generation there that wants the Turkish-Islamic Union. Masha`Allah, there are excellent governments on both sides. Both sides want unification. These are the years that are a great opportunity, in that regard. The gentleman, Mr. Aliyev, has a really strong desire for the Turkish-Islamic Union. His late father was the same. He also wanted the Turkish-Islamic Union.
AzerNEWS: Do you support the theory of U.S. Professor Huntington who asserted that the world is on the path of the widespread unification of nations and, in the near future, the globe will be divided into several major civilizations?
Adnan Oktar: True... and then just one, single civilization. He is right. The world will first be divided into two poles. There will be Christians and Muslims, and later there will be Muslims alone with the coming of the Prophet `Christ. First, with the appearance of the Mahdi, the world will consist of one Christian union and a Muslim one, but they will remain as friends rather than as enemies. After the return of the Prophet `Christ (a.s.) there will be only one religion and society, the Muslim world alone. There will still be states, of course, Turkey or Azerbaijan, because Allah tells us in the Qur`an that He has created us `as nations.` He does not say that nations will `cease to exist.` There will always be nations. But there will only be one faith, Islam, and that will rule the whole world.
AzerNEWS: How do you see the creation of a solution to the Azeri-Armenian conflict? How would you resolve the current deadlock, given that Armenia is failing to accept the right of Upper Garabagh to self-determination within Azerbaijani territory and is seeking full independence for the separatist region?
Adnan Oktar: These are the kind of things that arise in official politics, materialist politics. There are no such problems in politics in which religious faith and love prevail. You can go and embrace the president of Armenia and their ministers, you will wonder what happened to you, why we were divided. You will say that we are brothers, that they also pray in their churches while you pray in your mosques. You then invite them to dinner and you dine together. And the matter is resolved.
If Turkey and Azerbaijan embrace Armenia they will jump for joy. When Turkey embraces Armenia and says you are our brothers, Armenia will tear down that `genocide monument` of theirs overnight, in a single night. Our president went there and they turned their lights out. If he goes three or four times more they will do away with any remaining enmity. What does turning the lights out mean? It means they do not accept the prevailing logic there. Our president did not go and tell them to turn their lights out... it is a requirement of love and dialogue. That is what friends do.
They will withdraw from Garabagh before you even ask them to do so if you show them love and friendship. They will apologize, ask for Allah`s forgiveness and open the region up.
It is obvious what we think of the Armenians from the name we gave them, the Millet-i sadika, the loyal nation. There were Armenian generals in the Ottoman Empire. The state was entrusted to them, to Armenians. And they heroically defended the interests of the state, of the Ottoman Empire. That is the kind of people they are. Why were they turned against us? That was a dreadful thing to do….literally a policy of enmity. We shall not fall for it.
We have been hearing about them being called names like "the Moscof," "the Armenian" and similar, in a sense of dislike, for a long time now. But why? The Russians are very nice people, full of love, joyful with a good understanding of art and beauty, well-mannered and kind. And Russia is also a Turkic state. It is full of Turks. It is also an Islamic country overflowing with Muslims. So why should they be our enemies? We love the Russians, they are our brothers. It is out of the question. But there are also Russian lodges and a great many Masons in Russia. The power that made Lenin a Mason, Stalin a Mason, has not gone away.
We want Russia to grow, for it to be a strong state. We have no desire for Russia to collapse. Russian people are highly lovable. How could it possibly benefit us for them to be ruined? Even if we were to gain something out of it I would still not want it.
Russia may have experienced a reflex of fear, have felt reluctance. I mean if someone stands up and says the Turkish race is the superior race and one that must rule the world... then any country will instinctively move to protect itself. But the Turkish nation is full of love and affection. It fears and loves Allah and is virtuous. If you say we wish to bring peace and security to the region, then Russia will have nothing to lose and will welcome you with love.
AzerNEWS: What is your vision for Turkey`s further development? Do you see Turkey as part of the European civilization or the Islamic Mideast world?
Adnan Oktar: Turkey will be the leader of the Turkish-Islamic world. The whole world will see this in 10-20 years. There is no other alternative to this. This is the destiny of humanity. Turkic countries are, in any case, mainly Muslim. But within Islam there are also its brother faiths, Christianity and Judaism. They must be regarded as the People of the Book. Regarded with love. They are also a part of the Turkish-Islamic Union. Allah tells us of the People of the Book. We invite them to Islam, but they are in any case the People of the Book even if they are not Muslims. That is the law. Because they are loyal to the law of the Prophet Moses, and continue with it. Christianity is also loyal to the faith of the Prophet `Christ (a.s.), and they continue as a community loyal to him. We say they are also the People of the Book. Muslims can marry them, can go and eat in their homes. What does this mean? It means an air of close brotherhood and friendship.
AzerNEWS: What do you think motivates you most in life?
Adnan Oktar: Faith, of course, love and fear of Allah. I have but one aim, to earn Allah`s approval, and I am motivated by anything that will earn me that approval. I am someone who has devoted himself entirely to Allah. That is all I want. I have no wishes or demands from this world. All I want from this world is for people to be happy, for my nation to be at peace, for peace and brotherhood to rule the world and to become the foundation of the Turkish-Islamic Union.

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